| {Norsten, Michelle} | 07:55:10 pm | Welcome to our first chat! |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:00:21 pm | I hope everyone is having a good Thursday and staying warm. I will give everyone a couple more minutes to login before we get started. |
| Krueger, Andrea | 08:00:31 pm | Thank you! |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:03:42 pm | Good Evening again, we are expecting a few more that are having some login issues. But we can go ahead and get started. Welcom to our first chat. I hope you all were able to familiarize yourself with the platform and find everything okay. |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:04:26 pm | Before we dive into questions, please take a minute to introduce yourself and share what area of early childhood you work in. |
| Krueger, Andrea | 08:05:09 pm | I am Andrea, I am an in-home childcare provider. |
| Krumm, Courtney | 08:05:28 pm | Courtney Krumm, family child care provider! |
| Lacina, Kristyn | 08:05:38 pm | I am Kristi and I am a lead preschool teacher at a school. |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:06:08 pm | Thank you! And thank you for sharing. I am sure all your experience will add a lot of value to this class. |
| Bender, Genaveve | 08:06:16 pm | my name is Gen , I am an in home childcare provider |
| High, Nicole | 08:06:42 pm | I have a home child care |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:06:55 pm | I will be posting questions, please take time to respond and engage. We all have lots to share. Before we move on I will post a * symbol, please follow along. These chats go quickly! |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:07:27 pm | What is your experience with working in an inclusive classroom? |
| Krueger, Andrea | 08:08:03 pm | I have none |
| High, Nicole | 08:08:27 pm | i've been at home for 15 yrs, but before that I taught in preschool classes |
| Krumm, Courtney | 08:09:12 pm | I have worked at an elementary school as a paraprofessional, and childcare for a year |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:09:22 pm | Did those classes include inclusive practices Nicole? |
| Bender, Genaveve | 08:09:22 pm | almost a year in an in home child care |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:09:40 pm | Perfect Courtney, thank you for sharing. |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:10:10 pm | In home childcare is a perfect place to make inclusive, there are often times many ages, learning styles, etc. |
| High, Nicole | 08:10:28 pm | I had a few kids over a 7 yr span there |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:10:55 pm | That's a big age gap, do you offered planned activities for each age group? |
| Lacina, Kristyn | 08:10:57 pm | I have worked at private schools and the help from the public school takes a lot of work to get help in the classroom. |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:11:38 pm | I think sometimes staffing can play a huge role Kristyn. |
| High, Nicole | 08:12:08 pm | staffing in my district is horrible |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:12:24 pm | I have heard there are a lot of issues all over, even with bus drivers. |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:12:37 pm | * |
| Bender, Genaveve | 08:12:41 pm | * |
| Lacina, Kristyn | 08:12:47 pm | * |
| Krumm, Courtney | 08:12:49 pm | * |
| High, Nicole | 08:12:53 pm | * |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:13:07 pm | Describe the significance of equitable accessibility in early learning spaces for children with special needs? |
| High, Nicole | 08:14:16 pm | they spend more time with their peers. Which can be beneficial to both |
| Krueger, Andrea | 08:14:53 pm | It allows them to be involved with the kids their age |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:14:56 pm | Spending time in a social setting is huge. They learn to engage, proper interactions, observation, problem solving. |
| High, Nicole | 08:15:34 pm | and their peers can learn acceptance, how to help |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:15:55 pm | Like stated before staffing can play a role, but if a classroom is properly staffed and there are areas available for all, it helps make everyone on the same wave length. |
| High, Nicole | 08:15:58 pm | they also don't feel ostricized |
| Lacina, Kristyn | 08:16:12 pm | Having the right tools helps them to be able to thrive in the classroom with the other students |
| Krumm, Courtney | 08:16:18 pm | Being able to engage in all activities with their peers can help improve many lifelong skills |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:17:01 pm | Thank you Nicole, I agree that acceptance is a good thing. We want young children to work together, accept each other and when they are around each other at a young age those differences aren't as noticeable and everyone is included. |
| Krueger, Andrea | 08:17:57 pm | Absolutely. |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:18:05 pm | Exactly Kristyn and Courtney. Having the right tools and utiliizing resources helps everyone thrive, families too. And all these skills carry over for a lifetime! |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:18:14 pm | * |
| High, Nicole | 08:18:19 pm | * |
| Krumm, Courtney | 08:18:20 pm | * |
| Lacina, Kristyn | 08:18:23 pm | * |
| Bender, Genaveve | 08:18:32 pm | * |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:18:44 pm | Do you think there are challenges or barriers for families who have children with special needs looking for early childhood education? Can you give examples of these challenges? |
| Krueger, Andrea | 08:19:38 pm | I think there can be challenges. As a parent you may not know where to look for help or who to ask |
| Bender, Genaveve | 08:20:13 pm | Not all providers have the right tools to provide the correct care, families may be turned away |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:20:37 pm | Yes Andrea, and sometime it is an emotional times for families. They may feel burnt out and not supported. |
| High, Nicole | 08:21:05 pm | I know in my district, they can be bussed to the school during preschool hours. but they are not allowed to stay in the school daycare program. so they need to find care that works around that. parents with a first child may not notice anything with their child. they may not know where to go for help |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:21:06 pm | Very true Genaveve. |
| Lacina, Kristyn | 08:21:29 pm | Not being able to afford some of the options that are available, or a language barrier which is harder to explain the challenge their child faces. |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:21:46 pm | Has anyone had personal experience working with a familiy experiencing challenges? |
| Krueger, Andrea | 08:22:00 pm | yes |
| Lacina, Kristyn | 08:22:08 pm | yes |
| Krumm, Courtney | 08:22:12 pm | Yes, I think families could have challenges such as choosing the right “fit”, finding a space that can provide the tools and support both child and parents need during challenging times |
| High, Nicole | 08:22:15 pm | yes |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:22:41 pm | I am glad you pointed out a language barrier, there may be a barrier between families, school, provides or differing cultural beliefs. Finding ways to strongly communicate so everyone is on the same page is needed. |
| Bender, Genaveve | 08:23:05 pm | very slightly, the family did not agree that help may need to be seeked. |
| Tyler, Stevie | 08:23:08 pm | I am so sorry I am late. My name is Stevie Tyler I am an in home childcare provider |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:23:07 pm | Have you used outside sources or found ways to help them? |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:23:21 pm | Welcome Stevie. |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:24:13 pm | And yes, sometimes families don't notice a behavior pattern that you may notice in the classroom or at daycare. |
| Krueger, Andrea | 08:24:19 pm | I referred the family I had to Help me Grow |
| High, Nicole | 08:24:51 pm | I have sent mine to the school for evaluations. Currently I have one just getting started with a speech delay. But I think there are other issues going on that they will get help with |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:24:51 pm | Help Me Grow is an amazing resource, even just to browse their website. They offer so many resources. |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:25:15 pm | And an evaluation will help hopefully! |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:25:19 pm | * |
| Krueger, Andrea | 08:25:21 pm | I was impressed with the process and the family I referred was so grateful for the referral |
| Krumm, Courtney | 08:25:23 pm | * |
| Bender, Genaveve | 08:25:27 pm | * |
| Tyler, Stevie | 08:25:29 pm | We had a family that I needed to dismiss because they were not willing to work with us in helping their child whom needed further assessment. |
| Lacina, Kristyn | 08:25:30 pm | * |
| High, Nicole | 08:25:31 pm | Its hard if you try talking to the parents and they dont see a need |
| High, Nicole | 08:25:34 pm | * |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:25:38 pm | That is great to hear Andrea, sometimes it can be difficult. |
| Krueger, Andrea | 08:25:55 pm | I agree. I have a family now that will not take the referral |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:26:05 pm | What types of services or resources do you utilize in your program when you suspect developmental delays in a child? |
| High, Nicole | 08:26:53 pm | thats always hard Andrea 🙁 |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:26:54 pm | If you communicated a need for the child Andrea, hopefully the seed is planted and the family will see that at some point. Parents can put up barriers sometimes and not want to accept it. |
| Tyler, Stevie | 08:27:34 pm | It would depend on the need of the child. We have utilized group mental health help, following recommendations of family investment plan |
| High, Nicole | 08:27:51 pm | I would suggest they talk to their pediatrician next time their child goes in. Ask them what they see at home/do they see the same thing? |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:28:06 pm | That is good Stevie, to keep the family involved right from the start. |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:28:30 pm | Yes Nicole, and keeping an open line of communication with the family. |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:29:36 pm | Has anyone had experience with the referral process from start to finish and been able to reap the benefits of success in helping? |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:30:10 pm | In a perfect world? 🙂 |
| Krueger, Andrea | 08:30:11 pm | I don't have anything specific. I have spent a lot of time on pintrest and talking with a family member that works with developmentally delayed kids. I have a cozy cove setup for the kids. it includes fidgets, a feelings board and soft cushions |
| Tyler, Stevie | 08:30:20 pm | Not Yet |
| Krumm, Courtney | 08:30:20 pm | I have not |
| Bender, Genaveve | 08:30:31 pm | i have not |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:30:44 pm | I was just curious since we all have different things to bring to the discussion, maybe you will at some point. |
| Lacina, Kristyn | 08:30:58 pm | Success for them in the following year because i set up the process |
| Krueger, Andrea | 08:31:10 pm | The child I had that took the referral ended up qualifying for a preschool program in the district he lived in. |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:31:16 pm | The cozy cove is a great way to help kids get in touch with their emotions and learn how to express themselves. |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:31:27 pm | That is good Andrea! |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:31:32 pm | * |
| Krueger, Andrea | 08:31:40 pm | Yes. From my understanding he is thriving now |
| Krumm, Courtney | 08:31:41 pm | * |
| Lacina, Kristyn | 08:31:47 pm | * |
| Bender, Genaveve | 08:31:57 pm | * |
| Tyler, Stevie | 08:32:06 pm | We have a cozy cove as well that is called a safe space following conscious discipline |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:32:07 pm | Reflect on your early childhood program’s policy for inclusion and referral process for developmental concerns. Share what you know about the policy and explain your rationale when conducting the referral process. |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:32:40 pm | For those in an inhome, do you offer a policy for referral? This may not be in your contracts. |
| Krueger, Andrea | 08:32:59 pm | I do not have a policy for referral |
| Krumm, Courtney | 08:33:25 pm | I do not have a policy for referral |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:33:29 pm | Does anyone make observations or offer assessments for the children in care? |
| Tyler, Stevie | 08:33:58 pm | we do have a policy on referral that simply states that we communicate with families and when challenges arise we will work together as a team to help their child in the best way possible. |
| Krueger, Andrea | 08:34:03 pm | I do on an informal basis nothing heavily documented |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:34:23 pm | Making observations and communicating with families is a great place to start. Showing milestones, areas where they need to work a little harder or repeated behaviors that may you leave you questioning things. |
| High, Nicole | 08:34:33 pm | I dont have a policy per se. But I definitely have open communication with parents. and i have a form they can sign so that I can have access to their childs file if they get referred and I need to be doing things to help |
| Tyler, Stevie | 08:34:37 pm | I do twice yearly assessments and do make observations and note them. |
| Krumm, Courtney | 08:34:48 pm | If I observe something that I think needs attention, I will talk with the child’s parents but I do not document |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:34:54 pm | Yes Stevie, and that's where inclusive classrooms can play a signicant role. |
| Lacina, Kristyn | 08:35:10 pm | I am always making observations so that when the district comes in to observe they know what they are coming in for. As for assessments they are made twice a year. |
| High, Nicole | 08:35:30 pm | i do a fall and spring assessment |
| Krueger, Andrea | 08:35:51 pm | What type of forms are you using for assessments in an inhome? I am very interested |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:35:55 pm | It sounds like you all have experience in communication and observation. Those are both very important. Working as a team as well. Everyone wants what is best for the child. |
| Tyler, Stevie | 08:36:23 pm | I use teaching strategies gold assessment program |
| Krueger, Andrea | 08:36:30 pm | thank you! |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:36:44 pm | The gold assessment program is great. There are lots out there. |
| High, Nicole | 08:37:05 pm | i use the ounce scale for babies and teaching strategies gold for age2+ |
| Krueger, Andrea | 08:37:35 pm | Thank you |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:37:47 pm | Good! Eager to Learn offers some courses on assessments as well. |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:38:19 pm | All of these things, assessments, documentation, communication, inclusiveness all are significant to helping all children. |
| Krueger, Andrea | 08:38:19 pm | Wonderful. I am writing all of these down to look into for my program. Thank you all |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:38:39 pm | Great! |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:38:44 pm | * |
| Lacina, Kristyn | 08:38:48 pm | * |
| Bender, Genaveve | 08:38:49 pm | * |
| Krumm, Courtney | 08:38:51 pm | * |
| Tyler, Stevie | 08:38:52 pm | * |
| High, Nicole | 08:38:52 pm | * |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:39:45 pm | Before wrapping up tonight, I will put the directions for class expectations for the upcoming week. It is posted in the syllabus as well. |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:39:52 pm | Discussion Board: Initial Post is due Tuesday, December 9th with at least 3 additional posts to other participants by Thursday, December 11th. ● Discussion Question: The Zero to Three article in this week’s reading states: “Many months may elapse between the time a problem or concern first emerges and when a child is enrolled in appropriate services, which can make a difference in the child’s developmental outcome”. What can you do in the time between recognition of a concern and enrollment in services to ensure a child has learning needs met in your program? |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:40:44 pm | There is a discussion board question to respond to, please also take the time to engage with others and respond to at least 3 other posts as well. It really helps us all learn! |
| Tyler, Stevie | 08:41:04 pm | can do |
| Krueger, Andrea | 08:41:11 pm | Will Do |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:41:21 pm | Our second chat will be Thursday, December 11 at 8:00 |
| Krueger, Andrea | 08:41:44 pm | Sounds good! |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:41:49 pm | Also, does anyone have any questions? There are readings in each lesson posted in Eager to Learn as well. |
| Tyler, Stevie | 08:41:53 pm | i will make sure to be on time next time |
| Lacina, Kristyn | 08:42:00 pm | Sounds good! |
| Krumm, Courtney | 08:42:06 pm | Thank you! |
| High, Nicole | 08:42:18 pm | sounds good |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:42:21 pm | Thank you for your active participation tonight, Have a great night and I will stick around for a few minutes. |
| High, Nicole | 08:42:33 pm | thank you! |
| Krueger, Andrea | 08:42:33 pm | Thank you! Chat with you next week |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:42:45 pm | Sounds good Stevie, you're welcome to read through the transcript as well. |
| Bender, Genaveve | 08:42:51 pm | Thank you, Have a good night |
| {Norsten, Michelle} | 08:42:57 pm | Have a great night and week everyone! Stay warm! |
| Lacina, Kristyn | 08:43:12 pm | Thank you! Have a good night! |
| Tyler, Stevie | 08:43:15 pm | Thank you I have been. you as well |