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Topic

Chat Session 3

Date

2025-06-16

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296911
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Brank, Nicole06:56:24 pmHappy Monday!
Ross, Amber06:56:33 pmSame to you!
Ascheman, Rosalie06:57:02 pmHello everyone!
Brank, Nicole06:57:10 pmThis weather is so crazy lately.
Peralta, Mirla06:57:19 pmHi
Maameri, Ratiba06:57:20 pmHello Nicole and Amber and now Rosalie 🙂
Ross, Amber06:57:49 pmHello!
{Lowe, Brenda}06:57:59 pmHello everyone
{Lowe, Brenda}06:58:06 pmHow are the storms in your areas?
Yoswa, Toni06:58:11 pmHello, happy monday! No storms here. Calm!
Maameri, Ratiba06:58:21 pmyes, I was happy to see the sun out and suddenly it became cloudy 🙁
Kirchoff, Heather06:58:27 pmSame as Toni! Sunny in southeast MN.
Ross, Amber06:58:29 pmNo storms here yet!
Brank, Nicole06:58:30 pmIt's getting dark at my house again/
Frazier, April06:52:48 pmI think they went around us here in Cold Spring
{Lowe, Brenda}06:59:08 pmSame here
Evans, Casey06:59:15 pmMy son just had a blouwout so bathtub rinse it was!
{Lowe, Brenda}06:59:25 pmIt was sunny then -super pourdown rain - then sun and now getting dark again
Evans, Casey06:59:26 pmWe had hail in Richmond today.
Ross, Amber06:59:38 pmSame here, Brenda
Ascheman, Rosalie06:59:45 pmMy weather app has no idea if I'm in a tornado watch or warning!
{Lowe, Brenda}06:59:52 pmmy daughter was on the freeway earlier and said she was hydro-plaining sp?
{Lowe, Brenda}07:00:02 pmoh my Rosalie
Ascheman, Rosalie07:00:05 pmHydroplaning is so scary!!
Maameri, Ratiba07:00:27 pmNo storm but heavy weather cloudy and humid
{Lowe, Brenda}07:00:42 pmWell here is our back up plan again - just in case we get disconnected. If we do - go back into the syllabus and answer any remaining questions for this week that we don't get to/where we left off and email it to me
Kirchoff, Heather07:00:40 pmCasey - my kiddos love to blow out right before I need to be on time for something!
{Lowe, Brenda}07:00:55 pmI've already taken attendance for tonight so far
Roering, Angela07:01:04 pmHappy Monday everyone!
Brank, Nicole07:01:17 pm*
{Lowe, Brenda}07:01:25 pmHappy Monday!
{Lowe, Brenda}07:01:38 pmWe need a happy Monday - so thank you for that
{Lowe, Brenda}07:01:48 pmIt's been a great day - productive - but super busy
{Lowe, Brenda}07:01:54 pm How's everyone else
Brank, Nicole07:02:09 pmSuper busy with work.
Maameri, Ratiba07:02:15 pmSo busy, running like chicken without head 🙂
Ascheman, Rosalie07:02:24 pmWe had our first summer camp today! It was a lot of fun!
Peralta, Mirla07:02:35 pmI guess I will do that Brenda, I’m having a very bad connection
Frazier, April06:56:32 pmI am leaving for FL on Thursday morning so it kind of felt like it went slow for me today!
{Lowe, Brenda}07:03:00 pmMirla do what you can tonight
Kirchoff, Heather07:02:56 pmBusy busy! Mondays seem to be my busiest days... The most chaotic at work with staff needs and kiddos, and then pretty fast paced as soon as I'm home between dinner prep/three kids/class/bedtimes!
Brank, Nicole07:02:58 pmApril, I am jealous
{Lowe, Brenda}07:03:10 pmIf you are off and on with connections that is ok too
Roering, Angela07:03:12 pmBusy working and running kids to all of their activities!
Maameri, Ratiba07:03:14 pmNice Rosalie, can you tell me more about the camp, is it for scholl age or preschoolers?
{Lowe, Brenda}07:03:25 pmohhh April 80s and sunny
{Lowe, Brenda}07:03:36 pmYes angela!!!
{Lowe, Brenda}07:03:48 pmWell it's after 7 so lets dive in*
Kirchoff, Heather07:03:46 pm*
{Lowe, Brenda}07:03:53 pmbefore we get disconnected lol
Ross, Amber07:03:48 pm*
Quinn, Alyson07:03:51 pmIt is a *
Brank, Nicole07:03:56 pm*
Evans, Casey07:04:03 pm*
Roering, Angela07:04:09 pm*
Ascheman, Rosalie07:04:12 pm*
Frazier, April06:58:08 pmTraining 2 new hires this weeks so hopefully if I just focus on that it will fly by. Yes I am going to Treasure Island, its right off the Gulf.
Maameri, Ratiba07:04:28 pm*
Frazier, April06:58:16 pm*
{Lowe, Brenda}07:04:36 pmNice April
Yoswa, Toni07:04:53 pm*
{Lowe, Brenda}07:05:13 pmOk, I have just two of you that I'm waiting on to finish discussion board - answering x3 peers. So if that is you go ahead and finsih tonight so I can give you credit for it
Yoswa, Toni07:05:28 pm*
Kirchoff, Heather07:05:31 pm*
Brank, Nicole07:05:32 pm*
Ascheman, Rosalie07:05:34 pm*
Roering, Angela07:05:38 pm*
Frazier, April06:59:26 pm*
{Lowe, Brenda}07:06:05 pmWe are on week 3 today - here are our learning objectives: Learners will be able to interpret and adopt the responsibilities to personnel as outlined in the code ● Address ethical dilemmas by offering a supportive corresponding COE (Code of Ethics) article
{Lowe, Brenda}07:06:14 pmany questions before we get started?
Quinn, Alyson07:06:18 pm*
Frazier, April07:00:07 pm*
Roering, Angela07:06:25 pm*
Kirchoff, Heather07:06:27 pm*
Brank, Nicole07:06:28 pm*
Yoswa, Toni07:06:30 pm*
Ross, Amber07:06:31 pm*
Ascheman, Rosalie07:06:34 pm*
{Lowe, Brenda}07:06:52 pmok first one - Section I-3A.1 of the Code states a responsibility “to establish and maintain relationships of respect, trust, confidentiality, collaboration and cooperation with coworkers”. How might this look in practice?
Ross, Amber07:07:38 pmBuilding a team by offering team building activities and gaining trust with each other
Kirchoff, Heather07:08:05 pm It might look like having consistent check-ins, open door policies, and addressing conflicts right away (even if it feels yucky!) professionally and privately. For example, if a teacher is struggling with a classroom issue, I would offer support without judgment, ensuring they feel heard and respected while we work together on a solution.
Evans, Casey07:08:11 pm*When having conversation about professional development that may not be the most positive or requires a lot of tough questions and strong responses; having those conversations in the office and not repeating them to others. There is a totem pole for a reason, and stepping outside of that can create less teamwork and more distrust than trust.
Maameri, Ratiba07:08:12 pmWe listen to each other’s ideas, speak kindly, and respect different backgrounds and beliefs.
Frazier, April07:02:06 pmFirst you do not talk about other employees to others, you need to lead by example and treat everyone equally (no favorites). You cannot expect your staff to respect, trust, confide in you, work with you or trust you if you do not show them the same amount of respect back. It is a two-way street.
Yoswa, Toni07:08:29 pmEffective communication
Brank, Nicole07:08:35 pmBuilding positive relationships, listening, open door policy, communication.
{Lowe, Brenda}07:09:02 pmhmmm trust, consistent, conversation, professional development, listening, commuication....
Evans, Casey07:08:57 pm*When looking for new ideas and trial of different things, allowing all to try, not just the a couple teammates' that typical are strong at that., for example.
Maameri, Ratiba07:08:59 pmWe keep personal information private and don’t gossip about coworkers.
{Lowe, Brenda}07:09:12 pmlots of typos by me - but that' ok
{Lowe, Brenda}07:09:24 pmtrials of different things, trial and error Casey yes
{Lowe, Brenda}07:09:33 pmHmmmm Ratiba yes
Ascheman, Rosalie07:09:31 pmActive listening to coworkers ideas and feedback, offering help and stepping in when others need it, giving credit where it's due
Quinn, Alyson07:09:30 pmI think building strong relationships as a leader first, and then making sure everyone can honor and celebrate our diverse strengths. Sometimes someone is a more squeaky wheel, but that may make you think and look at a situation differently than you had on your own. Additionally, som people are very reserved, and so we say "take space, make space" for meeting participation. Everyone should be supporting each other, and confidentially is so important.
Peralta, Mirla07:09:34 pmRespectful and effective communication!
Roering, Angela07:09:36 pmThis means we need treat coworkers with respect, listen to their ideas, and have open and transparent communication. We need to keep private issues confidential.
{Lowe, Brenda}07:09:45 pmYou all have such great examples here
Ross, Amber07:09:47 pmI love that Alyson!
Maameri, Ratiba07:09:53 pmWe help each other with daily tasks and support new team members.
{Lowe, Brenda}07:10:05 pmso true Alyson
Frazier, April07:03:55 pmGetting your team involved and inviting new ideas from them can create the bond you are looking for.
{Lowe, Brenda}07:10:45 pmso bonus question - have you experienced it when this has not happened? In 3-4 words or so describe the situation
Yoswa, Toni07:10:44 pmDiscretion in communicating certain forms of communication/ information.
{Lowe, Brenda}07:10:52 pmex: teacher conflict
Ascheman, Rosalie07:11:13 pmStressful for everyone
Frazier, April07:05:04 pmWe have had plenty of that
Evans, Casey07:11:27 pmOh yes, it creates tension beyond belief.
Ross, Amber07:11:32 pmTeacher conflict will always be there. Being a resource to help working through the conflict all togetther
Ross, Amber07:11:42 pmIT is stressful for everyone
Yoswa, Toni07:11:51 pmOwners lack ethical operations
{Lowe, Brenda}07:11:56 pmsuper stressful
Kirchoff, Heather07:11:53 pmYes, specifically with blurred lines between staff and leadership.. I think as leaders we also need to be very careful about venting frustrations about staff to others - I've seen that A LOT from my center. It just seems shady and two-faced. If your boss is lamenting about a peer TO you, what makes you think they aren't doing it ABOUT you? Leaders need to not blur those lines.
Quinn, Alyson07:11:53 pmAlso, I feel like we need to know when someone is struggling. I had a staff member recently struggle and said they. "hated walking children on a sidewalk." That is something we can work around, and build their skills in, but knowing when to push comfort zones and when to adapt is also really helpful. Doing that respectfully and behind the scenes, not in front of co-workers, is really important too.
Evans, Casey07:11:53 pm*We have had situational role playing in employee meetings to help such possible situations from happening
Brank, Nicole07:11:55 pmStressful and frustrating
Peralta, Mirla07:11:56 pmGossip and when things are not communicated to the person involved
Ross, Amber07:12:15 pmHEather, I agree, it can start from the top and trickle down
{Lowe, Brenda}07:12:20 pmthe gossip yes
Maameri, Ratiba07:12:22 pmWe work together to solve problems and conflict in a professional way
{Lowe, Brenda}07:12:34 pmummm 'mean girls' has happned at a center I was at
Ross, Amber07:12:30 pmThat's a good idea Casey
Ross, Amber07:12:43 pmBrenda, yes! It is the worse!
Brank, Nicole07:12:59 pmBrenda that is the worst
Kirchoff, Heather07:13:00 pmThere's very unique challenges to working in a female dominated fiedl!
{Lowe, Brenda}07:13:05 pmmisunderstanding of poilicy too spread by rumor vs. fact from leadership
{Lowe, Brenda}07:13:22 pmit's awful. Like middle school
Ross, Amber07:13:22 pmYes, yes there is Heather!
{Lowe, Brenda}07:13:30 pmSo true Heather
Ross, Amber07:13:40 pmThen there will be times where everyone gets along just fine..then the coin flips!
{Lowe, Brenda}07:13:48 pmI think too - not respecting how we may all approach a family - curriculum - whatever...different
{Lowe, Brenda}07:13:58 pmAmber so true
Brank, Nicole07:14:01 pmThat is so true Amber.
{Lowe, Brenda}07:14:15 pmok*
Ascheman, Rosalie07:14:12 pm*
Ross, Amber07:14:13 pmand sometimes you don't even know why!
Brank, Nicole07:14:14 pm*
Ross, Amber07:14:15 pm*
Roering, Angela07:14:15 pmWe had a former teacher speak negatively about her director and tried to get all of the other teachers to agree with her. It was so stressful for the staff AND kids!
Kirchoff, Heather07:14:15 pm*
Frazier, April07:08:02 pm*
Roering, Angela07:14:19 pm*
Evans, Casey07:14:19 pm*
Yoswa, Toni07:14:28 pm*
Peralta, Mirla07:14:39 pm*
{Lowe, Brenda}07:14:50 pmterrible Angela. great example of how the kids pick up on that energy
Quinn, Alyson07:15:13 pm*
{Lowe, Brenda}07:15:23 pmok - daydream back to the positive wonderful programs with all respect and understanding of one another. How/What can you do to foster this type of atmosphere?
Maameri, Ratiba07:15:57 pmfirst thing is to model the behavior you want to see
Frazier, April07:09:47 pmBe there for them in all aspects of the job, show them you care. Take time to ask them how they are doing personally and in the classroom. If they need help with a child or a time of day, make sure you are there to help out and guide them so they can be successful.
Ross, Amber07:16:14 pmRatiba, I was just thinking about that. Starts from the top
Peralta, Mirla07:16:27 pmLead by example through kind, honest, and inclusive communication But also Celebrate team successes and show appreciation regularly
Maameri, Ratiba07:16:32 pmBe a good role model , Model respectful language and tone
Ascheman, Rosalie07:16:32 pmModel respectful behaviors (it works for us just like it works for the kids!), encourage team-building, celebrate staff contributions, and establish a peer support system
Brank, Nicole07:16:32 pmTake the time to go around the center and let them know that you are there and listening to what they have to say
Roering, Angela07:16:33 pmI try to lead by example. I strive to have open, respectful communication, and offer support whenever possible. I also try to provide positive feedback and express appreciation.
Yoswa, Toni07:16:41 pmIntegrity, saying what you mean, and following through on what you say. living what you speak and want to represent. Leading by example, and ensuring that you are nipping things in the bud as soon as they are presenting themselves, by using clear, effective, fair, communication .
Ross, Amber07:16:46 pmHow you can help them best, understanding their way how they want to be communicated with, taught, ect.
{Lowe, Brenda}07:17:03 pmlotsw of modeling yes
Kirchoff, Heather07:16:59 pmProvide clear expectations, follow through on commitments, and express appreciation often... definitely model the values I want to see at my center. I've gotta own up to my own mistakes as a leader, as well, because growth is a two-way street
Ascheman, Rosalie07:17:04 pmAlso, showing up! Show your staff that you're in this as much as they are!
{Lowe, Brenda}07:17:15 pmoh I like that Heather
Ross, Amber07:17:16 pmcreate consistency between everyone.
Ross, Amber07:17:32 pmYes, admitting you are wrong!
{Lowe, Brenda}07:17:46 pmAmber boom!!!!
Brank, Nicole07:17:46 pmYes Heather!
Maameri, Ratiba07:17:52 pmCreate a safe space where team members feel comfortable speaking up
Evans, Casey07:18:06 pm*I am a handle things head-on. If I "hear' something and I can positively clear it up on the spot- I will. Sometimes I will ask a staff "are you just picking a bit" because they are looking for that sense of control in that moment. I like to say and think that I have a great way with words, even when its uncomfortable or unpleasant.
{Lowe, Brenda}07:18:11 pmI use to do team building activities at our team meetings to build the team because when I got there they were so beaten down
Ross, Amber07:18:07 pmYes, I love that Ratiba
Brank, Nicole07:18:08 pmI agree Reatiba
{Lowe, Brenda}07:18:21 pmRatiba I like that
{Lowe, Brenda}07:18:45 pmCasey it's one thing I learned to do as a director and carry it with me in my practice today as a leader
Ross, Amber07:18:43 pmRatiba, I had to learn that the hard way a few years back!
Evans, Casey07:18:49 pm*Allow teammates to talk to each other, while youre in the room. It is a ncie barrier at moments, a nice clear up at times, and a nice way to break or help awkward silences when talking about something that doesnt feel the greatest1
Ross, Amber07:19:01 pmCasey, not Ratiba. Sorry!
Kirchoff, Heather07:19:08 pmRatiba - I love to offer ways to give anonymous feedback for my staff and then take action on the comments I receive, I think it has helped staff feel comfortable coming to me and speaking up later on after they've seen that how staff feel about situations DOES make a difference 🙂
Quinn, Alyson07:19:08 pmRemember what brings you joy and excitement. There was a rainbow this morning right when we were supposed to meet, so I moved our meeting outdoors to watch the rainbow fade while we talked about the day. Also, knowing your own limits. I was getting crispy at the end of the year and small bumps in the road felt really big. I had to check myself and think of leaders who stay steady when things get really challenging.
Evans, Casey07:19:46 pmAmber- its not easy to do for all, and that is another place where I like to mentor and "coach" on how to approach or talk about such things. I try to do that with April 🙂
{Lowe, Brenda}07:19:52 pmAlyson yes I love that. I use to have a smile file as I called it of notes or reminders or cards that I wanted to keep to remind me of the impact I have on the field
Quinn, Alyson07:19:56 pmI like that Casey. I feel like I am always in the room (my desk is in the classroom), and never thought of it that way!
Maameri, Ratiba07:20:06 pmAmber, we are always learning from the kids and the staff, I learned a lot all these years. and I am learning here too 🙂
Ascheman, Rosalie07:20:07 pm"getting crispy" I'm stealing that
Frazier, April07:14:13 pmYou have to keep your personal feelings for someone out of it, it is our job to teach and guide them even if we do not see eye to eye.
{Lowe, Brenda}07:20:42 pmGood point Casey
Ross, Amber07:21:01 pmApril, yes! It can be hard, but treat everyone equally!
Quinn, Alyson07:21:09 pmHaha Rosalie -yeah, not quite burnt out. I got it from a friend in hospital work during the early covid pandemic days.
{Lowe, Brenda}07:21:15 pmIt's nice to hear each others stories Ratiba, it motivates us to try something different to imporove our practice even more
Yoswa, Toni07:21:16 pmApril, that is what I say all the time, its not personal.
{Lowe, Brenda}07:21:31 pm*
Ross, Amber07:21:29 pm*
Frazier, April07:15:16 pmCasey is a great coach/teacher both to the children, staff but also to myself!
Yoswa, Toni07:21:30 pm*
Maameri, Ratiba07:21:31 pm*
Kirchoff, Heather07:21:32 pm*
Quinn, Alyson07:21:32 pm*
Ascheman, Rosalie07:21:33 pm*
Brank, Nicole07:21:35 pm*
Roering, Angela07:21:36 pm*
Frazier, April07:15:34 pm*
Evans, Casey07:21:53 pm*
{Lowe, Brenda}07:22:01 pmok think outside of yourself - What would you need from your supervisor (or other outside professionals) to assist you in fostering such an environment?
{Lowe, Brenda}07:22:15 pmmeaning not just your works
Ross, Amber07:22:16 pmPositive and negative feedback
Frazier, April07:16:14 pmI feel the hardest time to support your staff is when you are in a classroom of your own. You can’t leave out the class to go help and support another classroom so it makes it impossible to support them at times like that. So, the main thing I feel is to be staffed properly or to allow their directors/building leaders to not be in a class during the hardest times of the day so they are available to support when needed.
Brank, Nicole07:22:32 pmA sounding board to go over ideas either positive or negative.
Yoswa, Toni07:22:34 pmClear expectations and being held accountable
{Lowe, Brenda}07:22:46 pmgood one Amber. this can be verbal, a survey, questionairre, a review
Ascheman, Rosalie07:22:54 pmConstructive criticism - not just plain criticism, visible support, open-door policies
{Lowe, Brenda}07:23:00 pmNicole I am also a sounding board type of gal
Evans, Casey07:22:58 pm*Them also understanding and respecting the totem pole. Them role modeling the behavior. Them also happy-sandwiching when entering centers, etc.
Ross, Amber07:23:05 pmBrenda, yes! I love getting feedback to better myself!
{Lowe, Brenda}07:23:26 pmRosalie I like that cuz you are wanting feedback you can use - the good and the ugly
Quinn, Alyson07:23:25 pmPositivity, sprinkling room for growth advice, and knowing they are working hard too. Clear expectations are so helpful. Approachable.
{Lowe, Brenda}07:23:34 pm🙂
Yoswa, Toni07:23:38 pmapproachable is HUGE!
Frazier, April07:17:27 pmYes positive and constructive feedback is a good one!
Kirchoff, Heather07:23:43 pmI need to be trusted in my leadership decisions! The self-doubt that comes from decisions being questioned or scrutinized consistently makes me waiver in my commitment to uphold the code of ethics and standard of care. It makes me lean towards decisions to please a "back seat driver" rather than what is actually best practice.
Roering, Angela07:23:52 pmSupport from leadership, meetings/ongoing professional development, opportunities to have conversations outside of the classroom.
Maameri, Ratiba07:23:56 pmSame as our staff, we need encouragement and recognition
{Lowe, Brenda}07:24:11 pmDoes anyone have a resource they utilize that keeps them going
Yoswa, Toni07:24:15 pmHeather, that is really hard!
Quinn, Alyson07:24:16 pmRatiba, I needed that reminder. Thank you.
Ascheman, Rosalie07:24:32 pmHeather- YES!
Brank, Nicole07:24:32 pmYes Ratiba!
{Lowe, Brenda}07:24:54 pmI love using the NAEYC goup chat - I am not sure what it's called but I get emails of discussions. It's like a discussion board of thoughts and questions and ideas
Maameri, Ratiba07:24:57 pmCICC is my go to 🙂
Quinn, Alyson07:25:15 pmI find professional conferences, seeing other schools, interacting with other directors even if it is a quick vent session and moving on, all of these fill my cup! And Brenda, I love your idea of a "smile file!"
{Lowe, Brenda}07:25:22 pmHeather xxoxoxxoxoox yes
Brank, Nicole07:25:22 pmI will have to check that out Brenda
Ascheman, Rosalie07:25:28 pmI get the weekly emails from CICC, but I'd love more!
{Lowe, Brenda}07:25:35 pmAlyson that is a super smart one
Maameri, Ratiba07:25:43 pmNAEYC group chat, looks like a great group to join besides all the groups I am in 🙂
Kirchoff, Heather07:26:00 pmBrenda, does everyone have access to that chat or is it for certain NAEYC members only?
{Lowe, Brenda}07:26:07 pmI am at CICC so I can personally vouche for us. We have free resources, tip sheets, podcasts, etc
Brank, Nicole07:26:23 pmCICC is a great resource!
{Lowe, Brenda}07:26:35 pmGreat question. I'm not even sure how I got on. Its probably through membership
{Lowe, Brenda}07:27:02 pmWe started Leadership cohorts about a year ago for coaching too - for us - free of charge
{Lowe, Brenda}07:27:19 pm*
Quinn, Alyson07:27:17 pm*
Ross, Amber07:27:17 pm*
Kirchoff, Heather07:27:18 pm*
Frazier, April07:21:04 pm*
Ascheman, Rosalie07:27:20 pm*
Brank, Nicole07:27:21 pmI signed up for the Brenda, but passed right now due to this class.
Yoswa, Toni07:27:21 pm*
Brank, Nicole07:27:22 pm*
Roering, Angela07:27:23 pm*
Evans, Casey07:27:31 pm*Cohorts are the bomb!
Evans, Casey07:27:33 pm*
{Lowe, Brenda}07:27:49 pmNicole that was a good idea. You can always sign up again
Brank, Nicole07:27:53 pmYep!
{Lowe, Brenda}07:28:04 pmHow can you share principles of the Code of Ethics with staff when explaining your decisions and/or policies? Why/How would this be beneficial?
Maameri, Ratiba07:28:19 pmTell Talk also is a good resource
{Lowe, Brenda}07:28:31 pmI mean - it's not riveting material
{Lowe, Brenda}07:28:38 pmTell Talk yes
{Lowe, Brenda}07:28:57 pmthat's a monthly webinar on various topics
Ross, Amber07:29:03 pmIntresting!
Ascheman, Rosalie07:29:03 pmIt helps the staff actually see the code and how it's grounded in shared professional values. Using anonymous real scenarios would help the staff reflect on ethical choices made through the COE
{Lowe, Brenda}07:29:22 pmso like case studies
Evans, Casey07:29:20 pm*Breaking it down, and talking through them- putting them into situational terms and examples. It is like the ECIPS; it takes multiple readings, multiple practices of learning it, because it is so important to know.
Ross, Amber07:29:44 pmBreaking it down, all at once is too much!
Evans, Casey07:29:48 pm*Staff that may disagree or struggle to see the reasoning of the outcome- talking them through the COE and how the outcome- came to be, can be helpful.
Brank, Nicole07:29:49 pmI think having this in the handbook for the staff to look over and use scenarios of things that have happened in your center
Maameri, Ratiba07:29:50 pmyes Rosalie scenarios or exemples
{Lowe, Brenda}07:29:57 pmthat would be easy to do cuz you can take real life 'what would you do' that happens at the center and take names off and see how they problem solve
Maameri, Ratiba07:30:01 pm linking each decision to your ethical responsibility. Exemple: Illness policy protects children's health and safety.
Ascheman, Rosalie07:30:03 pmYes, exactly like that. I think it would help the staff begin to form consistency
Quinn, Alyson07:30:09 pmI took a few excerpts out of the COE for our staff wrap up week, sprinting them in prior to a discussion, or in reflection on a presenter. I think little bits shared when it is relevant to a situation supports good discussion.
Frazier, April07:24:18 pmIts good to have something to back up they why you are doing something, sometimes they think its just to make their job harder. They don't always see the big picture and this will help them see it.
{Lowe, Brenda}07:30:42 pmright piece by piece breaking it down
Yoswa, Toni07:30:42 pmSharing them regularly as staff development.meetings, trainings. This can be beneficial with helping them understand the "why" as we move through policies or talking points.
{Lowe, Brenda}07:30:57 pmtrue April, like licensing. we utilize it in a same way
Ross, Amber07:30:58 pmYes, the why behind it is so helpful
Quinn, Alyson07:31:12 pmRight April, and it feels like some staff see it as a hoop to jump through for Parent Aware. Yes Brenda, like licensing,
{Lowe, Brenda}07:31:19 pmToni yes, introducing parts over and over so it becomes part of the culture to reference back to
Maameri, Ratiba07:31:18 pmExplain the “why,” not just the rule to help staff understand the purpose behind expectations. Exemple: Advance notice of absences supports classroom stability.
Kirchoff, Heather07:31:21 pmI think its important, too, to make it a part of daily conversations and interactions. Not just the big flag you waive at staff meetings but embed it into every day problem solving and action taking.
{Lowe, Brenda}07:31:31 pmBravo Alyson
Roering, Angela07:31:47 pmWe often discuss real-life scenarios at our meetings, particularly when we are struggling with specific child or family. It helps staff understand the dilemma using the code rather than focusing on the challenging they are facing.
{Lowe, Brenda}07:32:00 pmRight - we do with accredidation such as Parent Aware or NAEYC.. this is another tool we can use to show the consistency in our field
Brank, Nicole07:32:14 pmThat is a great idea Angela!
{Lowe, Brenda}07:32:21 pmRatiba that is a big deal
Ross, Amber07:32:17 pmConsistency is so important!
{Lowe, Brenda}07:32:53 pmI love that Angela cuz then staff don't feel alone in their decision. Problem solving with colleagues
{Lowe, Brenda}07:33:02 pm...and in a safe space
Maameri, Ratiba07:33:12 pmOur field is so demanding, so sometimes consistency is a challenge
{Lowe, Brenda}07:33:20 pm*
Kirchoff, Heather07:33:18 pm*
Brank, Nicole07:33:18 pm*
Yoswa, Toni07:33:18 pm*
Roering, Angela07:33:19 pm*
Ross, Amber07:33:21 pmRatiba, yes!
Frazier, April07:27:08 pm*
Ascheman, Rosalie07:33:23 pm*
Evans, Casey07:33:23 pm*
Ross, Amber07:33:24 pm*
Maameri, Ratiba07:33:33 pm*
{Lowe, Brenda}07:33:40 pmHow could the COE play a role in your interviewing/hiring process? Performance reviews?
Quinn, Alyson07:33:36 pm*
Kirchoff, Heather07:34:22 pmYou could present scenarios based on real ethical dilemmas and ask candidates how they would respond 🙂
Brank, Nicole07:34:38 pmooo Heather I like that idea!
Ross, Amber07:34:42 pmAsking questions that come from the COE to help better understand them
Evans, Casey07:34:46 pm*We ask "tell me a time" questions when it comes to behavior guidance, staff disagreement, but not necessarily questioning and asking about a time where they were ethical perplexed; how did they handle that or who did they turn too.
Roering, Angela07:34:48 pmWe often ask scenario-based questions during interviews to see how a candidate might handle a certain issue.
Yoswa, Toni07:34:52 pmGreat for performance reviews, helps outline the expectations, areas of opportunities, as well as teachable moments during review process.
Ross, Amber07:34:53 pmI like that idea Heather
{Lowe, Brenda}07:35:00 pmgoodness Heather I love that
Ascheman, Rosalie07:34:56 pmAsking ethical dilemma questions and maybe sharing a copy of the COE
{Lowe, Brenda}07:35:07 pmgreat idea Casey
Kirchoff, Heather07:35:11 pmOr with staff reviews you can align feedback with ethical principles, like recognizing a teacher’s commitment to respectful communication or making a note that they need to grow in their ability to maintain confidentiality
{Lowe, Brenda}07:35:18 pmYes amber cuz that's the begining of understanding
{Lowe, Brenda}07:35:29 pmhmmm Heather yes or goals even
Frazier, April07:29:13 pmWe talk a lot about behavior guidance in our interview process. You can talk about the COE when it comes to this and intertwin them in the discussion.
Ascheman, Rosalie07:35:33 pmPerformance reviews could have COE principles as some of the evaluation criteria
Quinn, Alyson07:35:38 pmIt backs up this question (borrow from the U of M Lab School) we ask all candidates, and I find to be our most helpful interview question: "As an Early Childhood Education program, we are working to critically examine the curriculum, assessment, and overall practices of the Early Childhood Education program to ensure that all coursework identifies and addresses the goals of anti-bias and anti-racist education: identity, diversity, justice, and activism. What does being an anti-racist educator mean to you? "
Maameri, Ratiba07:35:40 pmDuring interviews, look for behaviors and attitudes that align with professionalism, and ask candidates questions that show their commitment to key ethics like respect, confidentiality, and teamwork. Example: “Tell me about a time you managed sensitive information or resolved a coworker conflict. What did you do?”
{Lowe, Brenda}07:35:52 pmRosalie yes, they need to see it and lay hands on that
{Lowe, Brenda}07:36:18 pmexactly Alyson
{Lowe, Brenda}07:36:45 pmRatiba I use questions like that too - and that aligns with our values as a team
{Lowe, Brenda}07:36:54 pma student once asked me....
{Lowe, Brenda}07:37:31 pmBrenda if you had a teacher apply with lots of experience but a bad attitude vs.
{Lowe, Brenda}07:37:51 pma teacher with little experience but has a great attitude what would you hire?
{Lowe, Brenda}07:37:59 pmWhat is your vote?
Roering, Angela07:38:02 pmGood attitude!
Yoswa, Toni07:38:04 pmless experience and great attitude
Ross, Amber07:38:14 pmgreat attitude
Brank, Nicole07:38:14 pmLess experience/good attitute
Kirchoff, Heather07:38:22 pmYep the attitude!
Roering, Angela07:38:22 pmIt is almost impossible to coach someone that doesn't want to learn
Ross, Amber07:38:31 pmAngela, yes!
Maameri, Ratiba07:38:33 pmcharacter and attitude is a plus then you train her
Evans, Casey07:38:43 pm*Absolutely!
Brank, Nicole07:38:50 pmA teacher with little experience is easier to coach/mentor
Frazier, April07:32:42 pmBetter attitude for sure! You can give them experience, you can't change someones attitude.
Ross, Amber07:38:57 pmYou can always teach them the way you want to from the start!
Ascheman, Rosalie07:38:59 pmGood attitude!
Maameri, Ratiba07:39:21 pmI agree April by experience
Evans, Casey07:39:22 pm**A bad attitude is poison to a team.
Roering, Angela07:39:31 pmyes!
{Lowe, Brenda}07:39:38 pmThis is what I said. The person was surprised thinking as a leader we'd want the experience. We do - but we can teach the 'things' but that attitude issue is toxic for the program
{Lowe, Brenda}07:39:45 pmpoison yes
Peralta, Mirla07:39:43 pmA teacher with little experience but great attitude is always a great learner
Frazier, April07:33:32 pmYes Casey! We have had a few in the past!
Kirchoff, Heather07:39:58 pmYou can't teach passion and optimism
{Lowe, Brenda}07:40:04 pmyes Mirla - like playdough
Evans, Casey07:39:59 pm*Everyone has a bad apple every once in a while.
{Lowe, Brenda}07:40:12 pmright Heather exactly
Evans, Casey07:40:13 pm*Sometimes that apple can be saved, others- the worm already got to it!
{Lowe, Brenda}07:40:31 pmhaaaaa lol love it casey
Brank, Nicole07:40:38 pmLove it Casey! so True
{Lowe, Brenda}07:40:51 pmwell on that note.... we are done for the night and just in time as it's getting super dark here
{Lowe, Brenda}07:40:59 pmany questions before we jump off?
Ross, Amber07:41:06 pmNone here, thank you!! Stay safe everyone!
Frazier, April07:34:54 pmHave a great night!
Brank, Nicole07:41:13 pmStay safe!
Roering, Angela07:41:15 pmHave a good night!
Ascheman, Rosalie07:41:16 pmThank you so much, Brenda! Have a great night everyone!
Yoswa, Toni07:41:21 pmNo questions. Thank you
{Lowe, Brenda}07:41:27 pmok wonderful. Good night, see you next week
Maameri, Ratiba07:41:23 pmin my culture we talk about bad tomato 🙂 just sharing,
Kirchoff, Heather07:41:23 pmEveryone have a good and SAFE night!
Frazier, April07:35:14 pmI think the last 2 MOndays we had storms also!
Peralta, Mirla07:41:49 pmBye everyone- be safe!
Quinn, Alyson07:41:49 pmI agree, to a point - we hired a super positive teacher, but he did not have early childhood experience. It was a steep learning curve, but I think over time I would still choose positive attitude! Have a great night!
Maameri, Ratiba07:42:42 pmThank you eveyone, and stay safe!
Evans, Casey07:42:49 pmRatiba- thank you for that share <3